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0	4540	of the real human data, or if that captures different answers.
4540	7880	For example, if I say, instead of a sovereign German woman,
7880	11820	you're a city English boy, I know,
11820	16020	if you have explored those kind of things.
16020	20920	Western politics of Hawaii
20920	25480	kind of look at that as those democratic variables really
25480	28880	matter in terms of that.
28880	34020	Yeah, yeah, like the LLM was prompted
34020	37060	to answer as a German woman, but then your sample
37060	40600	is not all the German women, I guess, like the real data.
40600	43380	So how do you account for those demographic variations
43380	46380	when you prompt them all to answer just as one persona?
46380	46880	You know?
46880	50380	Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what makes it so clear.
50380	55260	So basically, he took like 200 persons for the survey,
55260	57260	and all of those kind of .
58880	65060	And did you explore like the difference between the personas
65060	65720	that you made?
65720	70700	Like did the LLM show some variability
70700	74980	according to these different demographics?
74980	79600	Yeah, yes, I had a lot of .
79600	82900	I did run this analysis with the latest data.
82900	86780	Previously, it was like, you could really kind of see that they kind of cast this kind of .
86780	87060	They were like, I don't know, I'm not sure.
87060	87320	I'm not sure.
87320	87700	I'm not sure.
87700	87860	I'm not sure.
87860	88020	I'm not sure.
88020	88280	I'm not sure.
88280	88460	I'm not sure.
88460	88860	I'm not sure.
89400	91700	I don't keep them in a background.
91700	100400	But they are like missing or some of that
100400	102740	in contrast .
102740	104900	Yes, there's some .
104900	106200	There's some .
106200	108260	Right. Well, thank you very much.
108700	114540	The next presentation is bunun
114540	118860	of theömni intensivpamc towards .
118860	122360	in order to general intelligence with a causal temper approach
122360	124800	to the cognitive execution substrate.
139800	140280	Yes.
146640	148400	Okay, thank you for this opportunity.
148860	157000	Like my two main teams I'm interested in is how is cognitive science,
157100	163080	is it possible for cognitive science to help to build AI systems?
165300	168080	Or is it just an engineering task?
168320	173840	And the other one is on the next slide,
173840	178220	but I'm going to tractability.
178860	183860	And then some questions related to these issues.
184740	187860	And I finalize with the hypothesis that is kind of checklist
188500	194860	that what we should know up to this point, maybe also later.
196200	207620	So, my method is like all the participatory design, meaning that, okay, I set a goal that,
208160	208740	like, unfiltered.
208860	209620	I set a feasible goal.
210520	217420	Let's build a robot which has AGI capabilities, meaning artificial general capabilities.
217580	219620	Obviously, that's kind of unfeasible.
219800	229820	But the purpose is that in the process we find problems and criteria that are, you know, on the way.
231180	238040	So, and the other one good thing is that this kind of moves from the classical symbolic paradigm,
238240	238740	symbolic paradigm to the AI.
238740	238820	So, I'm going to talk about the AI.
238820	238840	So, I'm going to talk about the AI.
239000	246340	And it's a kind of manipulation paradigm to the embodied, embedded, and enacted and extended cognition,
246920	252740	because it's a robot and it functions in a physical world.
253400	256860	And this causal chamber is a device from physics.
257640	268100	It's a box where you can measure and do, measure real physical phenomena and do experiments in that way,
268220	268620	in real physical phenomena.
268620	277920	real world instead of in simulation world so I have this thinking tool or
277920	288600	concept of cognitive executive substrate meaning that everything that our head is
288600	294700	the executive organ that interprets every language data just like in
294700	302980	computer we have processor the processor executes certain kinds of programs so
302980	311020	like we humans we execute philosophy we understand philosophy through this to
311020	316660	our brain to the system all the knowledge we have and all the skills we
316660	324480	have we need that in order to interpret that so and and the point is that
324480	324680	that
324680	332100	we should think always what is the system we are kinda what is the system
332100	338760	that kinda executes the theories or anything or problems that we investigate
338760	342800	instead of like in many times in philosophy you focus in the discourse
342800	349460	what people say and what happens in this like conceptual realm
349460	354460	it's like same thing like in you can have extended mathematics but
354460	361240	only part of that is relevant for physics same thing here we should kind
361240	372640	of ground our our theories in in cognitive executive substrate that's the
372640	376720	conceptual tool so what is artificial general intelligence there are many
376720	384700	definitions but but I like this one it's quite practical there's similarly
384700	390100	like self-driving cars there's this levels of autonomy and then there is
390100	404680	this is it the general system or is it very narrow narrow system and yeah and
404680	406520	this image shows that
406720	418660	resistance is futile that the crafts are going that direction where the in
418660	425340	different tasks AI is able to surpass human performance so that's why I'm
425340	432960	interested in in knowing why how would computer science help in going that
432960	435220	direction
436720	443880	but there's a problem there's this practical condition thesis that states
443880	452020	that the AGI is not computable in practice
452020	457540	5 minutes I have 5 minutes what left
457540	466540	ok so but there's a problem
466720	474280	they don't define that they define the problem problem space to broadly without
474280	481480	any inductive biases and they think AI system as a monolithic agent instead of
481480	486400	they should think it as a modular agent
486400	491400	and
491400	494400	yeah
496720	526720	
526720	556720	
556720	586720	
586720	616720	
616720	628500	, that by its own perspective like what it like to cognize perspective without
628500	635020	without minimal or suitable inductive biases that we throw into them how would
635020	646680	that system kind of be able to create AGI so instead of having a thinking a
646720	654580	model monolithic system we should have that set of modules where each module
654580	663420	represents a cognitive capacity its module is tractable as an algorithm and
663420	673560	also in this into input space the modules are organized in an architecture
673560	676660	where each module is independent
676720	686720	there's no cycles, and they are best effort broadcasters, meaning that they just function
686720	693060	as their own and get modulated by others.
693060	703240	Then these models should be, they can mimic sensitive periods and we can learn from, start
703240	716420	from most digital levels like sensory levels and build on those and the whole system has
716420	721800	different time loops where the lowest, the most digital levels are the most fastest and
721800	723580	the highest levels are more fastest.
723580	732100	So I woke up this morning and I saw, I realized in a dream there was something more, but I
732100	733100	forgot it.
733100	743220	I woke up so, so I invite you to like tell me what is missing here or what I need to
743220	746940	consider more.
746940	751980	Yes, any questions?
751980	760280	I think there's time for one or two more questions, but it's probably great and then it's time
760280	761280	for the next one.
761280	762280	Great.
762280	762780	Sorry.
763100	764100	Thank you.
764100	765100	Hi, Janne.
765100	766100	Excellent.
766100	767100	Thank you.
767100	768100	Always nice to have discussions with you.
768100	769100	You are researching on a very broad basis here.
769100	770100	I have one very general question for you.
770100	775100	So sorry to read it out from paper and sorry for making you to listen to it.
775100	786100	But even if AGI, which we have, would be better in every single task than total analysis,
786100	789940	what would you say would be the best solution for the data?
789940	790940	So, I'm sorry.
790940	791940	I'm sorry.
791940	792940	I'm sorry.
792940	795940	I'm sorry when I say this one's not the best solution.
795940	798940	What I actually need to say is, that perhaps, creators andudio найти a superior intelligence
798940	799980	to strawberry plums that you describe not merely as man, but as an even Senhor and you
799980	800980	know, not only as this man top human, it might not mean that it has superior intelligence.
800980	804500	This is rest injection on the position that intelligence is made of different common tasks.
804500	809940	There's always a possibility about an entirely new task and a need for what we call shave
809940	810940	on creativity.
810940	813740	The long of human intelligence.
813740	818940	So just coming up with different cognitive tasks in a machine does not create anything
818940	819900	more than the superhuman and
819900	820940	all is clear.
820940	821940	Know?
821940	829220	more and there's some of those parts it doesn't create suddenly something this is a promise and
829220	836500	hype of or has been of ai that suddenly there will be this emergence of the general intelligence and
837060	845300	doesn't seem to happen we still have to teach it different tasks i don't know uh my answer would be
845300	853220	like uh using the other mind problem and the monolithic agent problem that if we are able if
853220	862420	if we are afraid to that ai is replacing humans then then it certainly has certain kinds of
862420	873460	capacities and the kind of also like if the tractable cognizant thesis is true then we can
873460	875140	also they have to say that
875860	882740	because they are critical everybody's afraid of ai doom so i would i would ask them that how do you
882740	889540	prove that the ai doom is not intractable i would i would kind of throw it out there that it's
889540	896260	intractable if we are in that school but if if we are in my school then
899460	902740	it's tractable but i don't believe
904740	905140	they do
905300	912740	thank you
912740	925860	now we have a coffee break of half an hour and 2 30 is the last keynote speech thanks again to all
925860	927860	the great presentations
927860	931860	yes
931860	933860	yes
933860	935140	yes
935300	965300	
965620	967860	for you
967860	973860	i
973860	974660	thank
974660	974740	you
